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Hello, I'm Gustavo Fechus. We are

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on the XMACNA videocast. We're here

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today with Lucca and Rômulo to talk

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about some of the solutions that

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we've been developing here at

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XMACNA for your company, for the sales journey

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that you experience with your

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staff in your business. Well,

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Lucca, here we have a job

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with a very consistent approach to

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think about how a process starts back

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in marketing, right? When someone wants

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to communicate content or a service, a

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product, right? Which is not easy

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to do, right? We live today in a, a

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moment, Rômulo, where social

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networks are very,

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they make our content

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very obsolete, right? This endless feed logic

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forces us, obviously, to

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have consistent production. The

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algorithm is always a mystery. We will never

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know for sure. We don't create false

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expectations, which is why it's

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important that we have a

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clear and ongoing plan in place. But

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that's just the beginning of a story, right?

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which will obviously lead to

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campaigns, in

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boosted posts, so that

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Strategically, you are positioned

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for a specific segment, so that there

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at the end, and if everything goes right, your

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salesperson receives a lead, right?

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Whose temperature, in fact, is not even known at

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first. And after that, there’s still

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a process that will be the one of

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convincing this person. You have to figure out

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if they even want to buy what you

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have to sell, right? And then this person

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has to write down what happened, right?

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There's a whole process of CRM logging,

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so that we don't lose the

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opportunity that is underway. Anyway,

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I'm not going to tell you how to

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sell the business right now, you get it, Lucca? But

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I know that we here, from XMACNA's perspective,

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have been working a lot

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on how we implement

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solutions powered by Artificial

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Intelligence with our own

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digital employees, which is something I'd

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like to start talking about with

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you. So Lucca, tell us a bit about

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me here, how we start this

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story and how XMACNA's solutions

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today can make this

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work easier, which is, after all, a

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hard job to do every day. Gustavo,

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thank you for the invitation, thank you for

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Question: thank you, listener, for being

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here with us.

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The question is:

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How to use artificial intelligence

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or how to enhance

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content production and the entire funnel, and

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the communication journey using these

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new technologies. We speak with

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a lot of confidence because this really speaks

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to XMACNA's origins, right?

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XMACNA is a spinoff from another

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education company called Red Gir, and

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at Red Gir we talk to the

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Portuguese teacher. So the challenge

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for a marketing team is to create

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texts for Portuguese teachers. God

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forbid, I wouldn't want that job.

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I start sweating just hearing about it, so...

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Before ChatGPT, before any

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tool like that, we were

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invited by OpenAI to

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because we are an education company, for having

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10 years of history already, to

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try out and understand how we could

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use the research preview

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from OpenAI at that time, which

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was GPT-3. It was DaVinci, it wasn't even Chat yet.

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It was just completion back then and we saw in it

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something fundamentally valuable, a

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sensibility that was very useful for us at

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Communication arrived. It quickly became part of the process.

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Then came the AI tools.

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Afterwards, creating images—right? That’s when Midjourney came along.

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Then DALL-E, Leonardo... and so on. And we started to see...

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that the communication field was about to change.

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Dramatically, from then until now... I’m sharing a little story—stick with me.

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Since then, we’ve realized that...

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Artificial intelligence will become...

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a commodity, meaning it will be everywhere.

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And it’s present in everything you use.

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Your phone, your fridge, your mixer...

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Everything will have some kind of language model, or...

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local or running in the cloud to help you...

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with that task. Anyway, it’s not just us who...

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are saying this. It’s the roadmap and the...

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deliveries from the world’s top tech companies...

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technology. For those of us who work with...

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communication, this means a huge...

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part of the problem is context transfer.

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Let me explain:

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Or rather, how to explain, right? Because you...

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have to explain to Artificial...

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Intelligence what you want. And sometimes this...

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what you want came from...

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a brainstorm in a WhatsApp group,...

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where someone sent a voice message, another sent...

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an image: 'Look at this! No, I saw this...

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ad from somewhere else. We should...

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reply like this, or maybe not reply that way...

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like that.'

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Our tone needed to be more...

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aggressive. I don't think we should...

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be a bit more cautious here.

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Take all this and bring it to another...

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solution, a ChatGPT type of thing, and say, 'Can you...

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help me build from this?' It...

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is often counterproductive. It's easier...

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than just doing it, because you're...

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immersed in that context, in that...

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discussion. So we thought, 'What if we...

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added a creativity copilot?'

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A way for us to generate texts and...

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posts in the company's daily life, with...

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incredible speed and quality. Of course...

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this is a first version. We still have...

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a whole communications team that...

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reviews and improves it. It's a first step, but it's...

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a very important first step, and it...

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can even be collaborative. It's...

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collaborative. That's what's...

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cool, because maybe someone has...

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an idea about the tone, the language, the...

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approach. Someone else has an image that...

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represents presenting that, and someone else...

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recorded an audio, right? You are in this meeting room...

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in a WhatsApp group, with this...

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FD. FD means digital employee, right?

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Connected, ready. It is a...

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place through which we qualify ourselves.

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A lot about this communication possibility...

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Which is so complex to achieve, and the

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coolest part, which seems to me and is important

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to point out, Lucca, is that this is not just about

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you if you're an advertising agency.

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Not necessarily, although it could be, right? Check out

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our FD, but the coolest thing is that

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for those who need, alone, to put their

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product out there and produce

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daily. In that sense, I have in the

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origin of this sales journey a

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solution that really helps in the

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boosting of this creative process,

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which is so hard, right? Doing it every day isn’t

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easy at all. So my question now is

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this: after taking this step, and let’s suppose

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we managed to build

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a meeting room, right? And with the

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benefit of AI there, and

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we produced and now we have a scale of

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production here that makes sense, that

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communicates my brand, that says exactly

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what I want it to say, that helps me in this

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creative process. How do we

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move forward within our set

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of solutions so that the sales journey

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of a brand, a franchise, a

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business, or a freelancer,

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keeps happening, keeps running and

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makes sense, in the sense of being real.

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Driven by the solutions we have today,

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we developed. Cool, let's work on

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some verbs here then. Yeah, we were

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talking about communication. And how

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creative copilots can help you

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in producing content pieces. So,

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let's put this inside the

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umbrella of attraction. So, we

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need to attract this lead, and we

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also need to communicate with the guy who

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already converted some time ago. So,

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feed social media, feed email.

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When you think about all social networks,

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there's video, text, images.

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have to create, with quality and

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speed, right? To feed all

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the algorithms, all these algorithms

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thirsty for data. Yeah, after that comes

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the challenge of converting. So,

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the communication solution so far is

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for conversion and qualification used to be

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about creating friction, by making you create

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a page, a landing page that

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the person visits and they need to fill out

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something annoying, but only just annoying

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enough so that those who don't want to

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fill it out, won't. Even math, right?

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Find out what 5 plus 7 is,

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things like that are very unpleasant.

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To prove it, show that you are human.

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You’re not a robot. Nowadays, in which

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places are there no buses? You know those

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questions? Exactly. These days, well, we

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have to keep answering that question to

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check if the person isn’t a robot. It’s very

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dystopian, right? Kind of crazy. But now we

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we... but we change dramatically.

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How can this conversion be done?

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landing page that was hard, static, and

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that pushed away those who weren't your qualified lead,

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because you didn’t want him anyway.

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But still, they're a data point,

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you could learn from them.

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You attracted them, you have something to hear

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from them. They can turn into a lead, they

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can become a lead, no doubt about it.

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does friction exist? Let’s put it

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another way: why can't we

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let all those leads reach

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the seller? Because there isn’t a seller on

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the face of the Earth who can handle talking to

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all of them, this entire universe of

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people clicking through social media. So we create

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a difficulty in order to sell the ease.

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go through the landing page, and only then

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once they prove themselves valid, will they actually

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someone's attention. And if we remove

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this problem of salesperson scarcity

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human at the end, from having the limitation of

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not having infinite people to work

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or infinitely scalable. Hey, Rômulo,

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tell us how companies

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hundreds of companies across Brazil

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XMACNA digital employees. Our

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factory director, right? Every robot

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leaves the factory with a tatuagem of a

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and a barcode that Rômulo

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personally puts right on the back of the

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robot, right? So, tell us, Rô.

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Exactly. Well, everyone, I think this

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issue of the digital employee, of

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qualification, is very important. But, um,

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starting from here... But where did it come from? It's

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very important the place in the funnel, right? In

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what part of your communication strategy

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will we position this

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digital employee, because what we often

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see, right, Lucca, is when the

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digital employee is placed somewhere

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in the funnel where he shouldn't be

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too. So I think this moment to, and

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analyze the company's cognitive process

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of this transition from the communication sector

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of lead generation so that the

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it's extremely important to understand if

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they are a top-of-funnel,

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middle-of-funnel, or bottom-of-funnel employee. So, I

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think that's the first thing that

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XMACNA brings as a differentiator.

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Besides creating the digital employee, we

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understand your company's cognitive

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process so we can place them at the right

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funnel stage that's most suitable for them to serve

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the right type of customer, right? Because we

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know very well that the cost per click is

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very high. So if I create a very high cost

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per click just to reach 100,000

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well, 100,000 is an exaggeration, right? 1,000 leads there that

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I don't even want to talk to. So sometimes

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it's not that the employee isn't

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being efficient, it's about which part of the funnel

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the employee was created for and what

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value they can deliver there. So,

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this work of analyzing the process,

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placing the digital employee on the right track

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is extremely important and,

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from there, one of the tasks that

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we do here at the factory is exactly

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that: to create the customer journey, right?

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So, how do I serve your client,

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what are the paths they should

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follow, right? And of course, apart from all the

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qualification they'll be given for a

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The conversation is always smooth, a dialogue in the

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tone of your company, yes, yes, yes...

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Testimony from people who have already told

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us that clients sometimes get a bit

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flirty. Yeah, because,

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you just can't tell, and the voice is

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nice, and the voice has, the voice has, the voice has...

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image, right? So, I

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think it's kind of a, a, a

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Tinder, in a different way, you know? Yeah, but it is, it is

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important because it really is an

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interaction there that's really qualified and it's

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quite, um, specific to the relationship that

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you have with your client. We have

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companies that want a digital employee

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who's more formal, who doesn't use emojis, who doesn't

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make puns. So, if your company has

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that characteristic, we develop

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within that

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characteristic. But, if your

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company is one that has a

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different profile, something more and

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elaborate, more youthful, that happens

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because we serve everything, from law offices to

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law firms. Now we serve a

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group that works with claims. So,

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imagine a digital employee handling

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a funeral insurance situation. Wow,

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right? So, it has to have the right tone

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for each one of these cases, so we

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Qualification of the digital employee, it

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is very specific to your business, right?

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Always respecting this relationship and the

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process of turning your funnel into a

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sales machine. And the most interesting thing

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is that this solution is not alone.

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Our digital employee has a

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work buddy there, right? Who later

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is another Artificial Intelligence

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that runs in the background, after the

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conversation happens, it can

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turn an unstructured conversation

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into structured data. And then comes the next

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step, which is to be able to deliver to the

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salesperson, deliver to whoever is there who

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They're going to close, they're going to take the penalty, right?

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They're going to push the ball into the

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goal. Passing this data completely

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qualified and structured. And then, if your

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company is a company that doesn't have a CRM

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that doesn't have a more

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solid structure. You're a freelancer, right?

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If you're just starting the process, we

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give you this smart dashboard that

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can often work very well as a CRM.

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that already has a CRM, that already has a

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structure there for managing

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clients by types, we can

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integrate with your CRM, put the data in the

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Your CRM in the specific track. Oh, I have

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three tracks. I have one for the client

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who is cold. I have one for the client who

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wants product X, one for the client who

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wants product Y. We can

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direct within the specific track

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because we have an army of

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artificial intelligences behind, uh

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that will be able to do this

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direction. Rômulo, you mentioned a

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thing that really caught my attention, which is

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turning unstructured data into

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structured data. I mean, we

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have the capability here with the technology

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that we've been developing to, uh

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from the conversation these FDs are

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having. You're talking and you don't even

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know it's an FD, right? Of an

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artificial intelligence. You turn

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this into data, right? Into data you see and

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find out who is cold, warm, and hot.

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That makes a big difference for us

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to really be able to qualify and boost

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even the work of the salespeople

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humans, the people who are on the front line

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every day working hard to

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work, do business and, anyway, we

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have noticed in these

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implementations very important solutions

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that are important and not from the future, already

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They are happening right now, I know.

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We're talking about Artificial

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Intelligence. Sorry for the

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foreign term, but hiring XMACNA

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is a no-brainer, because we

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are talking about saving time and

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money, because your communication team's

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time, which is a

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costly team. Communication and people with this

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sensitivity are expensive. This will

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save you a lot of time in the process of

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creating and launching campaigns.

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From the moment the campaign goes

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live, you start converting your

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salespeople won't waste time with those who

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won't buy from you. They'll spend time

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only with those who are truly qualified.

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And finally, we really like the

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analogy here about the remora. You know, the remora is

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that fish that swims alongside the

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shark. And then the shark eats and drops a

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bunch of leftovers. Those leftovers are your money.

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And we can take all those

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leftovers and make sure that 100% of the budget

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that was put into the team or into

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boosting will actually have an

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effect, will generate leads for the company and

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will go through the whole funnel that will be

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qualified, anyway, but will generate more

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sales. And it's a very virtuous cycle.

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Well, everyone who hires a

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digital employee quickly realizes that it doesn't

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cost money, it saves money. Very

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well, folks, we could spend so much

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time here talking about the

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experiences we have at XMACNA,

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but we've reached the end of this

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moment and the invitation is renewed for you to

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visit our website XMACNA and

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also check out our social media and

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on the website, chat with Hermes, you will

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be surprised.

