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In today's episode, sales are all about timing,

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responding late is costly.

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Hello, welcome to the XMACNA podcast,

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I'm Gustavo Fechus, and I'm here

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today with my friend

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Daniel Valladares, whom I thank

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for his courage and patience in sharing

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the microphones here in our workspace.

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Daniel, so today we

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are pleased to resume a

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presentation from XMACNA, based on

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a very current and pressing issue,

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which is, Daniel, how can we

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enhance sales, business,

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and even the support side of a business

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operation, all through

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WhatsApp. WhatsApp is the home of the

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Brazilian. This tool here in the

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tropics is very widespread,

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right? Maybe it's not really comparable to other

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places in the world, and we are native

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users of this platform. Basically,

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that's it, right? So, I think it makes a lot of

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sense for us to improve quality and

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strategy in this space where we are all

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present, right? Whether we like it or not, it's

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through WhatsApp that our interactions are mediated,

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both our social interactions and this

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can also be an important

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business and sales tool in this

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It makes sense to understand what AI does in the

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world today, what its capabilities are,

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its potential and how a

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digital employee, which is a product

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here from XMACNA, can specifically

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perform this important function, this

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contribution, for your business as well.

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Regardless

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of your industry, if at any

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time, at any moment, you have

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customer support on WhatsApp, this is also

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a possible channel for conversion, for

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prospecting, closing deals,

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scheduling, whatever it may be, right,

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Daniel? Regardless of the process,

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in sales, we have things to contribute

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there. So that's it, Daniel. Pick

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where to start. Imagine that

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someone is hearing about this for the

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first time. How would you

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introduce this topic?

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>> Great. Let's go. Well, before

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anything else, thank you very much for

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the audience. Remember, if you're watching on

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YouTube, don't forget to leave your like

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and also subscribe to our channel

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to help us spread this information

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to more people. So guys,

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look, Gustavo, I think the most

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important thing is, really,

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Introduction, right? Saying that whoever

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follows the world of sales on

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WhatsApp knows it's a world that has been

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constantly changing.

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Especially in the rules for using

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WhatsApp imposed by Meta, which

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is the owner of the tool

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currently. So it's important

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to highlight that with these changes,

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which are mainly leading

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sellers who use it or companies that

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use the tool in a more

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aggressive way, let's say, from the point of

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view of volume, of sheer quantity

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of contacts, right, of mass messaging and

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etc. This has been targeted by

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blocks and so on. So,

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today we have the possibility,

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to offer service when

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people contact us. So when

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someone, a lead, goes and messages you on

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WhatsApp, you will have a window of

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at this moment, as we're recording here,

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at least, a 24-hour window

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to provide this service. And with

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that, we need to optimize this

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service at the moment when the

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client contacts us to avoid wasting time

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from that window and then you end up creating

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additional costs that you will have to

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Paying to start a new message.

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Maybe this reopening might not

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be efficient. So, we need to

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work to always take advantage

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of Meta’s context windows as much as possible.

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Mainly because, in my view,

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here, in the not too distant future, everyone

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will eventually need to migrate

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to the official API tools, right?

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That said, what's important for

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us to analyze here, right, Gustavo? The

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digital employees end up having

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an increasing relevance within

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this scenario. First, because of

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personalization

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that we already know, from

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qualifying the benefits of having

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your human salesperson invest

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more time in qualified leads, in

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fact, in meetings. But beyond

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that, now we also have this

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issue of working so that

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leads are in fact attended to in less

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time. Today, making sure they are

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served faster is not just

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a matter of losing or not to

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the competition or a luxury. This

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will end up being the norm in the next

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months, and more and more this

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timeframe is shrinking even faster.

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Sometimes we predict it and say, "Oh,

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this will go to the end of the year, and in the end there’s

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some update in the target and it gets moved

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to next week, right? So,

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the sooner we're ready for it,

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the more relevant it's going to be.

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So, in that sense,

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let's first bring up the matter

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related to context windows, right,

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understanding the context of the official API

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and the importance of being able to provide

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fast responses, right? And I

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also noticed, Gustavo, I saw even a

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recent update today. I confess I

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didn't dig deep into the paper, but

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Instagram also announced that

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they're now going to allow links in

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posts, right? So it looks like

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we’re coming to the end of the link in the

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bio, right? I don't know. For those who

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it lasted

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excellent. Excellent. Because every

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post you made before on

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Instagram, you'd put it there, right, it was the

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only platform until now where you

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had to put the link in the bio, and then you

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went to the bio link, there were millions of

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links. In the end, that link for the

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post, sometimes you couldn't even find it.

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So now the bio link will

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it could actually be Bill's link that will

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direct to a website, to something

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else. And in the post, we'll be able to

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use personalized links, right? So

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this personalized link could also

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be a link that opens WhatsApp

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so that the employee themselves

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there can continue this

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communication, right?

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>> And opening up another window of

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context here. How do you see this,

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Gustavo, from your point of view,

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>> Daniel? Well, from this perspective, I think

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it's a window of opportunity

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commercially speaking, there are two

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perspectives here, right? There's the

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platform's point of view, which until now

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held back this feature

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>> and then there's the usability point of view,

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that it's much better for us to have this

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immediate access to the destination, to which

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that post takes us or to which it

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would take us, right? So now that we

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have this direct connection with the

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final address, we have even more

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conversion opportunities. Let's say

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this way: it's one less click, right?

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Now we have a faster interaction

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and in this sense, it's about

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taking advantage of the technology available

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to qualify that conversion, so as not to

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lose it. So, one of the main problems we

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see most on this side of the counter,

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right, Daniel, is people who have an

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ineffective service, it's people who are

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trying to solve a problem that is the

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same problem for many businesses today, right,

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which is: in the end, how can we, at 3 a.m.

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or regardless of the volume and

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the time or the day, actually

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provide the best and fastest

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service possible, since it's

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absolutely clear that sales

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is all about timing, right? We need to be quick

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and efficient in that regard. So,

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Hey man, you know something, sorry to

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interrupt, but you know something that I, that I

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also notice and find important?

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We usually, in our talks here,

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mention 3 a.m. a lot, the

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weekends, you know, those times

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when usually the team isn't

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working, right, and we have the

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possibility to provide service. I

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have to say, Gustavo, that I've been

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a bit shocked lately with the

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experiences I've had recently

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because even when I call during

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business hours to ask something,

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interested in a service, in a

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product,

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and sometimes they take hours to reply to me.

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When they don't reply until the next day.

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So, sometimes we're

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there late at night, thinking about it, and

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on the weekend, because we're already

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at another level in that sense of

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wow, everything, we have here a digital staff

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for support, for customer service,

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for sales, for everything. And, man, sometimes

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looking there, right, people nowadays

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there are a lot of companies that still, even during working hours,

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have trouble handling customer requests

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in customer service, man.

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Yeah, I did this here, Daniel, I can say

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first hand about this, I did a survey

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recently about a post-graduate course.

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And I reached out very

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broadly to several institutions that

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offered that specialization and so on. Man,

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I wanted to offer XMACNA to each

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one at the end of this process, you know?

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Because the quality, the timing of

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service response, anyway, is a real pain point and

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for many businesses, right?

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good. And what I just wanted to add,

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Daniel, is this. There's also,

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the quality of the human aspect in this

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customer service, because, honestly, who hasn't

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You’ve had the experience of interacting there,

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with Hermes, right? Who’s our SDR there,

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on the XMACNA site, maybe you haven't

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really noticed that, in fact, we

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aren’t talking about a

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"press 2" chatbot experience.

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Absolutely, if we don’t want to

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tell, and we don’t need to tell anyone there’s an

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AI on the other side, people will never

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know that it’s not a very

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attentive and charismatic human there,

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right? So, anyway, there are many... I keep

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thinking like this: but what’s the

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catch or downside here? Right now, I can't

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really see, at this moment, a

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counterargument, you know? There’s a

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technology now that’s already

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available, democratic, accessible, and

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ready to operate tomorrow, right? It’s very

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quick to implement

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as well.

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And I think there are some

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points there, right? For example, first

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because until now, XMACNA, we’ve

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positioned our digital staff

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as reactive, right? And we’ve

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been working to have some

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implementations

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soon, so that it can

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also be proactive. So, there’s a lot, there are

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Some new things are coming, right?

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Yeah, in that respect. And I think...

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customer service on WhatsApp is easy, right? Yeah,

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discussed here, but for the employee,

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yeah, for the digital employee to do this

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customer service on WhatsApp is easy. Yeah,

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but that alone already helps, it's

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transformative, it's already a huge help

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in making things easier. But, at the end of the day, you will

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have to update a CRM, right? You will

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have to enter this information into an ERP,

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you'll have to add a note, a

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task for someone to do something,

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right? So we call them digital

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employees precisely because they're going to be

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the ones who, besides doing

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customer service that can be by voice,

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right, they can also receive audio, they can

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make phone calls, they can receive

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calls, and besides all that, they can

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CRM, move cards just like a

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an employee would do. Hence the reference to the

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digital employee. So, I think

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this is a point. Sometimes it seems

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like magic, but it’s true, it works

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>> Total, total traceability, right, of the

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interactions, and an intelligent dashboard that

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allows the manager to see the development

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of the interactions, even measuring the

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temperature of the leads,

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>> Anyway, a very, very

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>> XMACNA: I’d like to leave an invitation here for

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everyone watching us. We are

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conducting a survey regarding

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the use of artificial intelligence

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currently in companies across different

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sectors, right? So, I think it’s nice

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to mention that we’ll leave here in the

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video description link for this

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survey. It’s a short survey, ok? That

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you can fill out in 5 or 10 minutes at most,

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and there’s a bonus.

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When you complete the survey, we’ll give you

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an immersion in artificial intelligence

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completely free and

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also the promise to keep you

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informed about the progress of the survey

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so you can have access to the

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results, understanding how the

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development of AI is going in the business

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world. And also in the different sectors, right, and

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by sectors. So, we invite

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our viewers here to

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join us in this survey and have

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access to these materials. These are materials

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that could be sold and, in fact, there are

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people out there selling material that doesn't have

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the same level of quality. So,

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click the link, join the

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survey, it's quick and will be very

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interesting to have your opinion

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there, okay?

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Cool. So, Daniel, introduce for us

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the XMACNA Partner program for us

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to wrap up, please.

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>> Wonderful. For you who are here

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with us and I think, wow, this

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solution is really cool and I not only want to

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implement it, but I would also like to take

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this solution to other companies, to

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other businesses, to my clients, right?

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Sometimes you are an agency and you are

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saying: "Wow, this would really help

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my clients a lot." So, uh, we

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have the XMACNA Partner program, okay?

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which is a program where you can

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sign up to participate and from

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that moment you start to have

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Training is about how digital employees work, how

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digital employees work, how

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to sell digital employees

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and you become a representative

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official of XMACNA, ok? The links so that

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you can also participate will be

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here in the description. It's very simple, you

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will register, go through an

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initial training and join our

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partner group. And as you

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develop in the partner program,

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we will also give you more

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resources, right? So today we have

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partners who work with our CRM, who

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receive leads from XMACNA. So, it's just a

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matter of actually registering,

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start participating and as you

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progress in your sales, we will

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evolve with you too, ok? I think

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it's important to mention, at this

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moment there is no cost for you to

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be part of it and you only get the bonuses.

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In fact, the client is still yours, the

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negotiation is yours, but the delivery and the

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support is ours. All right? So, if it

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makes sense to you, come be

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part of our XMACNA program

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Partner.

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Very well, on the XMACNA website,

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XMACNA.aiaai,

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You can also find the related menu

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to the partner program here at

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XMACNA. Well, to you who stayed with us

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until now, our sincere thanks for your

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company, and help us share this

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content with anyone else who might be

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interested in it. Thank you and see you

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next time.

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>> That's it. Thanks, everyone. See you.

